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HATEBREED (JAMEY JASTA)

THE NEW ALBUM “SUPREMACY” COMES OUT ON AUGUST 25TH. YOU HAVE BEEN REALLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE ALBUM BEFORE IT CAME OUT. WHAT MAKES IT SO SPECIAL TO YOU? Just cause it kind of represents a rebirth for the band, the same way that I think “Perseverance” sort of re-ignited, you know, our love for the music and the scene and everything. I think, right now with,- there is the confidence of our live show and having gone through a really rough two and a half years, losing our manager and just me losing some family members and some friends. Just really sort of losing my enthusiasm to tour and do everything that involves like being in a band. I had to like really reconnect to make this record. And by doing so I really challenged myself to, I guess, gain “Supremacy” over my doubts and my depression and the demons that were still haunting me from different, you know, bad scenarios that had happened in my life. So, this is kind of like, you know, now we’re a five-piece again, we’re tighter than ever, we’ve been touring now since April, and the shows have been better than ever. It’s kind of just like re-invigorated our love for the music and the scene, and all the bands that we played with, and it’s just been a good feeling so far. BUT HAVE YOU EVER LOST THE LOVE FOR MUSIC WITHIN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS? Well, I just think that I became so burnt out, and I was just doing too many things. And I just sort of, like, lost the ability to appreciate a lot of the things that I used to appreciate about touring and playing every night. And a lot of it, I think, had to do with just like social anxiety and just being pulled in ninety different directions and not being able to just say “No!”, and just accept that you can’t please everyone, and you can’t be in ten different places at, you know, one time. You know, I just, I just really started losing focus, so I had to reconnect with that. And a lot of it had to do with November’s ten year anniversary tour. We went out to small clubs, no barricades pretty much, really small shows, four,-or five hundred people, diving off the stage, and I was talking to kids every night. And I just reconnected, you know. RIGHT. HAVE YOU EVER REACHED A LEVEL WHERE YOU THOUGHT: “OK, THIS IS GETTING TOO MUCH!”? DID YOU HAVE A POINT WHERE YOU HAD TO RE-FOCUS ON THE MAIN THING, ON HATEBREED? Yeah, definitely! And that’s kind of why once those old feelings of, like, the adrenaline and just getting charged up from the music, and making the music, you know, having the music come full circle and then making me feel good. That was a great sort of re-tap into those feelings. And, you know, definitely I think I let a lot of like the business and the industry side of it sort of bum me out, and it started to hinder the creative process, you know, back in 2005, late 2004 or early 2005. So then, at the end of 2005 when I started to reconnect and get back to square one is when the creativity started flowing again. And that’s when I started getting answers and just, you know, chipping away a lot of the loose ends and just trying to make good on certain problems that I had, and just, you know, slowly just changing my life for the better. And that really helped. FROM RELIABLE SOURCES I’VE HEARD THAT THE NEW MATERIAL IS A LOT MORE METAL. WHAT WOULD YOU PUT THAT DOWN TO? WAS THAT INTENTIONAL OR JUST A CONSEQUENCE BECAUSE YOU’VE BEEN SURROUNDED BY MORE METAL MUSIC THAN YOU’VE BEEN BEFORE? Yeah, I mean, I think definitely we all listen to, you know, everything from Obituary, and Carnivore, and, you know, Sepultura, Slayer right out to, you know, Mercyful Fate and the classic stuff, Maiden, Metallica, Judas Priest. But, you know, I think we’ve done a lot of the, you know, basic sort of hardcore songs on our first couple of records. We always have like those kind of classic hardcore-sounding songs like “Burned alive” and “Straight to your face” and, you know, on “Perseverance” we had like a good mixture of the hardcore and the metal. When you listen to a song, like “Perseverance” or a song like “You’re never alone” which has like the mid-tempo and the sing-a-long and, you know, the classic hardcore beats like “We still fight”, and songs like that. Well, I think this new record is more – if I had to compare it to older songs or older material – I’d say it’s more in tune with songs like “Doomsayer” and “A call for blood”, and even like “Last breath” of the first album. You know, the double-bass, and just the adrenaline of it, the charge of the more thrash crossed over with a little more double-bass, a little more, you know, those elements – but still with the hardcore lyrics. You know, I think this is a very uplifting motivational record with lyrics that are still based in reality, and really hardcore-style lyrics. AS YOU JUST PUT IT, THE LAST RECORDS HAD MORE OF A HARDCORE EDGE. IN HOW FAR HAS THE SONG STRUCTURE CHANGED? HAS IT EVEN CHANGED? Well, they have. You know, we try to do like, instead of your basic sort of like: verse-chorus-verse-chorus-big climactic ending, we try to like have a little bit more depth on this one without straying too far from the formula. You know, every song has a different arrangement, a different formula going on. And that was cool to just do and just challenge ourselves, where we would be like: “You know what? We’ve never had a big, like, drum intro! Let’s have like a, you know, percussion-type drum intro! We’ve never had like a song start with just a guitar alone! Let’s do that!” So, I mean, there’s little things like that here and there that- You know, we’re not going too far outside of our box, but we’re, trying, you know, different stuff, and hopefully people will like it. FRANK “3 GUN” NOVINEC IS THE LATEST MEMBER IN THE BAND. WHEN DID YOU DECIDE TO MAKE IT A FIVE-PIECE AGAIN? I think, you know, towards the end of the touring cycle on “Rise of brutality”, when we started to trying to write some stuff, and just get more ideas, I just thought: You know, what we need? You know, we started this band as a five-piece – we just need to return to that formula. It works for the writing style that me and Beatty both approach. You know, like, when we started doing like demos and doing, you know, different songs there was definitely, like, when we did “To the threshold” there’s definitely parts there that, you know, involve two guitars and we knew we were gonna have to, i think, just step it up as a whole. And I think, it makes the live sound a little bit more full. And, you know, it’s just how we started, so it just seems right. RIGHT, MY FAVOURITE THRASH BANDS ALWAYS HAD TWO GUITARS. And that has a lot to do with it, too. You know, I think, on “Rise of brutality” we felt a little overconfident. And we were like: You know, if Pantera can be a four-piece, we can be a four-piece. And since we already were pretty much a four-piece on “Perseverance”, we recorded as a four-piece, we did the majority of that touring as a four-piece. You know, and the tours and the shows were so great, and the live-sound was so great. And everybody said: “Yeah, you know, you can’t even really tell!” You know, we felt really confident in it. But I think: as far as wanting to challenge ourselves in the depth of the music on this record, I think, you know, it had to be done. And it was the way we started the band, and I think that’s the way we should carry on the vision. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE SINGLE IS GOING TO BE? Well, right now, I guess, technically it’s “To the threshold”, cause we have a video out for it, and because it’s on the “Headbanger’s Ball” compilation. But the album does have that song on it. And people have been reacting to it really well here. But I think, interestingly enough Roadrunner wants to go with one of the heaviest, most fast, brutal tracks on the record, as for the next single and video. So that was really cool for us to hear. So they are-, they really like the song “Defeatist”, and they want us to do a video for it, so we’re just trying to figure it out. And it’s a pretty mean-ass song. So I was really surprised that they attached themselves to that song so early on. That – to me – I thought that would be a cool like live-video at the end of the cycle, like, you know, cut together cheap. But they, I think, they want it to be, you know, the leading track. And that’s great, because, you know, they didn’t try to change us, they didn’t, you know, there was no pressure to, you know, make a radio-type song or anything like that. And they know that, you know, with Hatebreed-, the reason we’ve built up for ten years is because we’ve stayed true to our message and our sound. CAN YOU TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE LYRICS AND THE BACKGROUND OF THE SONG? Just, a lot of it is just like the last two and a half years of just getting a point in my life where I really knew I had to make up serious changes and start over. I wanted to show that, you know, the music can still be a cathartic experience for me. And I wanted people to be able to relate to it, but also derive their own inspiration from it. So I challenged myself to just be more personal with it. And that’s really it. I mean, there’s songs that are about other stuff than just personal stuff, but for the most part – the whole basis of the record – it starts with like “Defeatist” and “Horrors of self” which are basically kinda almost like me talking about myself in the third person like wanting to make a change. And then at the end of… So it starts kinda like with “Horrors of self” and like me looking at my own reflection not knowing who I am. And at the end of it “Supremacy of self” which is like, looks to the future, like, maybe one day I can attain, you know, supremacy over all the demons and the darkness. But also just feel like, you know: I’ve made the most attempts to try to have the most achievements and go after what I want. And, you know, if you look in the dictionary, supremacy says like, you know, “utmost, ultimate, highest achievement, highest empowers”. And I thought, you know, there is nothing wrong with trying to, you know, be the best you can be. And that’s the statement we wanted to make. THAT’S INTERESTING THAT YOU SAY THAT. BECAUSE YOU’VE ALWAYS POINTED OUT THAT YOU LIKE TO KEEP IT IN A PERSONAL WAY, BUT NOT TOO PERSONAL, THAT YOU WANTED TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION. WOULD YOU SAY IT’S MORE PERSONAL THIS TIME? It’s definitely more personal. I think people are gonna be really surprised when they read the liner notes and everything, because I said ion the liner notes like, you know: I didn’t want to say it, I didn’t want it to be public, but I thought, you know, I gotta be honest to myself and my fans, and just every Hatebreed fan out there that may have been…, you know…, may have like seen me or seen what I was going through and maybe not understood. You know, like, I just, I lost the love for a long time. And I wanted to tell people like: Look, this album almost didn’t happen in a way, where I really doubted myself. And for it to happen just shows that, you know, there is… I really still think, I am an optimist, I really try to look for the positive even through the bad stuff, and I wanted to, you know, just be honest, and just kinda like come clean on the record, and just say: Look, there was times over the last two and a half years I didn’t want to get on the stage, I didn’t want to do the interviews, I didn’t want to meet the fans. And that was, like, I was ashamed of that, you know. I was ashamed that I would get up there and sing like “Live for this” and “This is now” and “I will be heard” and all these up-lifting, positive songs, when I really wanted to just, you know, be lying in my bed, and I didn’t know why. So, you know, it was like, a lot of my own trickery and my mind that I had to get away from that really made this record possible. So, once things started to change and when the music started, I would go back and listen to the records. And we did our ten year anniversary tour. Everything started to look up again and that was when I was really becoming like invigorated, and I was like: I gotta make a real statement on this record and show people that depression is real, problems-, you know, life is not always gonna be good, it’s always gonna be a new problem around the next turn. But if you can keep, you know, chipping away, maybe you can make a real change and be happy at the end of the day. THAT’S QUITE SHOCKING TO ME, BECAUSE YOU’RE THE GUY WHO WROTE THE LYRICS TO THE SONGS YOU JUST MENTIONED. AND NOT ONLY THAT THESE ARE VERY UPLIFTING LYRICS, THEY ALSO GIVE HOPE TO A LOT OF KIDS. THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT GOT INTO MY MIND: HOW DO YOU KEEP THE STRENGTH, HOW DO YOU KEEP NEGATIVE THOUGHTS AWAY? IS THERE S A RECIPE FOR YOU WHEN YOU’RE IN A DEPRESSIVE MOOD? HOW DO YOU MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER? Like a lot of kids I was like, I would look to music, and I would listen to the albums that I loved, or albums that just gave me a charge, that made me feel like I could be more, you know. And I thought I need to make another record like this, but show that I don’t have all the answers, and I did, you know, I did become so weak to the point where I didn’t know who I was for a little while. And I wanted to show that, you know, the music can be a cleansing experience again for me, and that maybe this will be such an honest record that it will really react for people. You know, if people that don’t even like metal, or don’t even maybe know of Hatebreed, maybe they can relate to what I say in the liner notes, and maybe hear the deeper meaning through the music. And that was another thing I tried to really focus on when we-, especially when I was doing the vocals. Like, I went back and re-cut vocals. And I tried to make every take as best as I could and try to really-, like, if I didn’t like a certain word or a certain scream, I really tried to go back and give it a hundred percent, which, you know, for me a lot of times I think I was lazy or I was procrastinating. And it was like, that goes back to like the mental trickery of doubting myself and wanting to take shortcuts. And I didn’t want to do that with this record. We really-, we went back in the studio and re-worked songs, and really tried to make it as best as we could. WOULD YOU SAY “SUPREMACAY” IS LIKE A DARK ALBUM? You gotta have the dark with the light. You know, I definitely think that for the darkness that I faced over the two and a half year period, I think that there was a lot of beacons of light in a lot of, you know, different places. That were showing how you can’t have the high highs without the low lows. And it just, you know, sometimes you see like these slumps or these, like dark points and periods in people’s lives that really get to people. And I’ve dealt with suicide in my family, I’ve dealt with alcoholism and depression, and I’ve seen these trials of life get the best of people. Friends, and, you know, I just wanted to put out a record that said, you know, that’s not the way, and that there is, you know, hope. And I know that I’ve touched on that on other records, but I wanted to make it more of a personal thing this time around, just so that people know it’s not just me trying to sell an idea of optimism. I really went through it, and I really came out of it. So, you know, it’s… that’s the main thing I wanted to show. It’s like, you know… sure, people would say to me: “What’s wrong? What’s eating at you? Why? You host a TV show! You run a label! You finally have a career! You know, you’re in one of the biggest hardcore bands of all time! You sold more records than all these bands combined!” That’s like sometimes the most debilitating thing about it, is that you don’t know why. But you just… you can’t get beyond this lateral plane of negative feelings. So, that was one of those things why I had to look into myself and be like: “Ok, I need to somehow purvey this on a record where I’m done with it.” And have it be like, me exercising all this out of my system. So, that’s what it was. YOUR LYRICS – AS CHEESY AS IT MAY SOUND – HAVE ALWAYS HAD THIS YIN-YANG BALANCE. ON THE ONE HAND IT GOES SOMETHING LIKE “KILL-FUCK-DESTROY-DIE”, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE IT CARRIES MESSAGES LIKE “YOU GOTTA BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, YOU GOTTA DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR LIFE” If you look at some of the negative songs we’ve had on some of the records like, if you’ve got a song like “Call for blood”, really, you know, the song is based about a guy who-, you know, his daughter was raped and killed and couldn’t find her body. When they found her body, you know, ten years later or whatever, you know, they-, he went and actually murdered the guy that supposedly had done it. And I thought, to me, you know, that’s a positive ending, because the guy was able to get his revenge. And to some people it’s a very negative song. But to me, I thought, if someone did that to my family member I would want revenge. I think, you know, eye for an eye – tooth for a tooth type thing. So, to me, I don’t really look at it as like a negative song, like aimless negativity. I don’t want to ever have aimless negativity, because I think that’s dangerous. I think that, you know, when you have, you know, songs like “Perseverance” and “Live for this”, which tell stories of why we do this every day, then, you know, you also get that message. But, you know, like a song like “Doomsayer”, it’s about people, you know, basically leeching the life out of you, and always being like: “This is gonna be bad, this is gonna be fucked up, this is gonna-, this part of your life is never gonna amount to anything!” So, to me, getting that out and saying, you know, saying what I want to say, is almost like a cleansing. And the outcome is positive. Like, if somebody comes to a show, gets all these negative feelings out at the show – instead of going and robbing someone, or going and doing drugs – comes to the show and has a natural high from it, and a natural, you know, cleansing of all his negative, mental activity, then I think that’s a positive outcome. A LOT OF FANS COME TO YOU AT SHOWS AND TELL YOU, THAT YOU GAVE THEM HOPE AND HELPED THEM IN THIS OR THAT WAY. WHAT WAS THE MOST TOUCHING EXPERIENCE WITH A FAN YOU RECALL? There’s been a lot. I mean, I think, just recently I had a kid writing me about he’s bad with multiple sclerosis and just, you know, had being diagnosed with that, having all these doctors telling: “You can’t do this, and you can’t do that, and you can’t…!” You know, and him telling me about his-, going rock-climbing and doing all these physical activities that normally you wouldn’t be able to do with that disease. So, that was amazing. And then, you know, I had a girl writing me to say that she was in an abusive relation-ship for many, many years, and couldn’t leave, and didn’t know what to do, and thought this man was gonna kill her. And that our music gave her the power to go and get out of the-, you know, seek help, and get out of the relation-ship. And then I’ve had people say that, you know, they use the music to give them power, you know, every day to work out or abstain from drugs and alcohol, and just things like that. Things like that also really helped me reconnect with why I started doing this. And that was another thing, like I wrote in the liner-notes of the album. I just wrote, you know: Thank you to everybody who has ever like approached me on the street, or at a show, or anywhere, or written me emails or letters, or written the band, you know. To me that really helped me to be like: “OK, wow! Take a step out of the situation. Look at it from a different angle!” Cause some of these people’s stories, you know, make my, you know, story look like pale in comparison. You know, what I mean? Like, some of the stuff that these people have been through, you know, it’s like, I would tell myself like: “All right – shut up! You know, you got it easy!” So, it was humbling, it was very humbling and it helped create the overall basis of the record. BUT THE “ALMOST BREAK-DOWN” YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT – THAT CERTAINLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE MILLIONS OF ACTIVITIES YOU’RE HANDLING: YOU’RE HOSTING AN MTV SHOW, YOU HAVE YOUR OTHER PROJECT ICEPICK, YOU’RE DJ-ING, YOU’RE RUNNING A RECORD LABEL, YOU’RE ORGANIZING FESTIVALS, YOU HAVE A FAMILY… I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON. I MEAN, HAVE YOU EVEN STEPPED DOWN IN THE MEANTIME? Yeah. I’ve hired a lot of staff for the label. I’ve cut the management roster, I’m only handling very few artists. I’m, you know, trying to basically-, I’m not doing anything really with Icepick. That was just like a, that was just like a snapshot of time, just a fun record I had to get out of my system. And, you know, other than that my focus, you know, my main priority, my focus has always been on Hatebreed. But I try to stay busy and try to stay involved like, you know, with a lot of my stuff. Like the clothing line I still do, but I have a retail deal and they handle a lot of the stuff. And then over here I have a deal through Trashmark, and he’ll be handling that stuff. So, it’s like. I’ve had to delegate out a lot of the jobs and just… I’ll admit I took on too much. And, you know, to the people that I disappointed by being spread too thin, you know, I had to go and make good and apologize. You know, that was one of the main things that I think, you know, definitely burned me out a little bit. ON YOUR OFFICIAL WEBSITE THERE’S A POP-UP WINDOW WITH OFFICIAL RING TONES THAT THE FANS CAN DOWNLOAD. DO YOU HAVE AN ENDORSEMENT? No, the label did that on their own. I was like: “Man, how do I get that for my phone?” But I don’t think I have that provider. I have the t-mobile, so maybe t-mobile will get our rings. But I heard a kid the other dad had “Live for this”, so… He must have got it off that, so… (chuckles) It was pretty cool, it was pretty funny to have like your phone be like, you know, a Hatebreed song when it rings OF COURSE, WHILE DOING MY RESEARCH I CHECKED OUT YOUR FAN FORUMS. THERE WAS THIS ONE GU, WHO SUGGESTED THAT HATEBREED “SHOULD WRITE SOME UPLIFTING HARDCORE SONGS FOR THE SOLDIERS IN IRAQ”. THERE HAVE BEEN LOST OF ANSWERING POSTS WHICH SAID: “YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A FUCKING GREAT THING!” WOULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? You’re actually like the third or fourth person that’s asked me that. So maybe, you know, maybe when the journalists are doing their research they go the forum and check it out. But I, I just.. I answered this the other day because someone asked about – us being on Universal – Godsmack was on Universal, and Godsmack, I guess, had a song in a military commercial, and, for recruiting troops or whatever. And I guess, you know, received a lot of flak about having, you know, a lot of negative comments were: “Oh, why would you have, you know, your song in a military commercial!” For me personally, I write songs, you know, for myself. Like this last record, it had to be a personal-personal record. So, right now I just don’t think I would be in the mindset to maybe write a song for someone else’s purpose. Whether it be, you know, a wrestler or a TV show, or a commercial, or a military theme song, or anything like that. I just-, I don’t know if I could get in the mindset to do that right now. Just, because I’m really trying to use the music for my own personal catharsis. LAST YEAR WHEN YOU PLAYED THE PRESSURE FEST IN GERMANY, A FAN DIED OF A HEART ATTACK AS YOU WERE PLAYING. BUT THE MEDIA CLAIMED IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE “WALL OF DEATH”, BECAUSE OF VIOLENT DANCING. AND SOMETIMES IT DOES GET A LITTLE BIT VIOLENT THERE. DO YOU SOMETIMES GET NERVOUS WHEN YOU SEE THAT THE PIT IS GETTING TOO WILD? I do get nervous sometimes, and I actually like-, I was asked about this the other day. And someone said that it was during Terror’s set, and then someone said it was doing Maroon’s set, and then someone said it was during our set, and I was like: I thought that was funny that people were trying to like place the blame on like a certain band’s pit or whatever. But, you know, I do say that, you know, when you come to the show you enter at your own risk. And everyone needs to respect each other – without a doubt – at the show, you know. Sure – go crazy, have fun – but not at someone else’s expense. I always say, you know, I wanna see, you know, mayhem and carnage and destruction, but it’s really out of fun. I want everybody to leave with a smile on their face and not a cast on their face. (laughs) You know, so, but that was terrible. I would never want anybody to, you know, loose their life going to a show, and just to enjoy themselves. You know, what I mean? But that’s why, you know, like there’s all sorts of warnings at a lot of the big festivals and stuff. Like: if you have a heart condition, if you have some sort of condition, you know, with dehydration, you know, you’re out in the sun all day long, you’re at a festival for twelve hours going crazy, you gotta, you know, you gotta take care of yourself and look out for other people. If you see someone fall, pick him up. If you see someone pass out, get an EMT. But, you know, all our shows are, we have professional security, professional EMTs, doctors on the side and stuff, so… I feel like for the most part it’s a safe environment. THE TWO SCENES, METAL SCENE AND HARDCORE SCENE ARE GROWING TOGETHER – THAT’S WITHOUT DOUBT – BUT STILL…: HARDCORE FANS ARE BRAGGING ABOUT THE GAY METAL FANS, AND THE METAL FANS GO LIKE: OH, THAT STUPID, MORONIC HARDCORE CROWD. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, HOW ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THAT? WHEN YOU SEE THAT THE FANS ARE BEING SO INTOLERANT AND NARROW-MINDED, WHILE YOU’RE PREACHING THE EXACT OPPOSITE? All we do is speak out against it and say: Look, you know, when we tour, we toured with Slayer, we’ve toured with Motörhead, we’ve toured with Danzig. I mean, we toured with – even on the rock end of things – you know, more metal rock, more so than, you know, metal hardcore. And you know, I think, that’s why we’ve been able to have a crossover of fans. Especially with like the “Persistence” tour, you know playing with Agnostic Front and Napalm Death, it was a great mix of punks and hardcore kids, skinheads and metal heads. And for the most part there wasn’t really a lot of violence. There was a lot of tolerance and a lot of unity, but, you know, on certain shows I think that, you know, can’t pick and choose the people who come. And sometimes there is some bad seeds that want to cause trouble. That’s been a part of music forever, it really has. And I even was to blame, you know, back in the day when I would go to shows with my friends. And, you know, we would get drunk and be crazy, but it was never against another, you know, group of people just because they looked differently, or their hair was long, or anything like that. I mean that’s, that’s unfortunate, but hopefully everybody can get into it and have a good time. If they can’t, they can’t. But, we’ll keep saying, you know, unity it’s… we’ll keep playing with all diverse bands. I think, the next time we tour, I’d like to play with like Ignite, who are totally different sounding than us, but are still under the hardcore, you know, world. Or I would like to play with, you know, Kataklysm, or Obituary or Bolt Thrower, Entombed, because these are bands I love, and I listen to every day, you know. YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT SLOWING DOWN – BUT YOUR TOUR SCHEDULE TELLS THE EXACT OPPOSITE. I REALIZED, THE EUROPEAN TOUR CONSISTS OF THREE SOLID WEEKS OF TOURING WITHOUT ONE SINGLE DAY OFF. HOW DO YOU KEEP YOURSELF IN SHAPE WHEN BEING ON THE BUS WITH LIKE 20 OTHER PEOPLE? It’s a little crazy. But, you know, this tour is gonna end two days earlier. We’ll go home, regroup, shower in our own showers, sleep in our own beds, and then go on Ozzfest. And Ozzfest is a little bit easier. It’s a 30 minutes set / 40 minutes set, and it’s during the day, and you have a nice air-conditioned dressing-room. It’s a little bit of a more relaxed environment. So, that will be cool. But, you know, it’s what’s gotta be done to promote this record. And, you know, we’ll have a good, like, solid six to eight months of touring, and then we’ll regroup and figure out where we’re gonna go. But I really think, that with Roadrunner involved now, and really avidly promoting this record, we do have to stay out on the road, and bring it to everywhere we haven’t been. It’s gonna be great to, like, go to Scandinavia, or Eastern Germany, Poland, Russia. You know, we’re gonna come back and do Serbia, Rumania, and Greece, and Portugal, and Spain, and Italy, and all these places we never really get to go to. So, that’s gonna be good. BUT IT’S NOT GONNA BE A TOUR THAT LASTS FOR FIVE YEARS, LIKE YOU’VE DONE IT IN THE PAST?! I mean, that was a little crazy, with “Perseverance” and “Rise of brutality”. I think, over four years, we did like well over 600 shows. So… But it was good, I mean, at the end of the day it really made our mark. And, you know, we got to go to South America, we got to go to Australia with Korn, and played to 20.000 people, and then we got to do to the whole “Unholy Alliance” tour with Slayer and Slipknot, which was insane. It really helped us beyond. You know, those two bands right there, those two bands really, really helped us when no other bands would. So, that was… We’re lucky, you know, I don’t wanna sound like, you know, all of it was bad, you know. I just, in my own mind, I was dealing with a lot of stuff, but there was a lot of great things over those two and a half years, and I am grateful for it. SPEAKING OF GRATEFULNESS HERE – YOU’RE A MUSIC JOURNALIST AS WELL – WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST REWARDING EXPERIENCE YOU’VE EVER HAD, AS YOU WERE HOSTING MTV’S “HEADBANGER’S BALL”? Jamey. One really cool thing: I was interviewing, I was supposed to interview Velvet Revolver, and they flew me to (Washington) DC to do the interview. And it was right around the time where Scott Weiland was all in the press, and mainstream media for blasting press people. And, you know, and I thought maybe the interview wouldn’t happen. You know, I thought, he doesn’t wanna be on “Headbanger’s Ball”. And I wouldn’t blame him, cause he seems pretty burned out, and it seemed that a lot of people were diving in his personal life and stuff. So, when I got there, the entire band besides him wanted to do the interview. And were like giving me high five’s, and like new me by name, and knew about Hatebreed. And I was, like, this is so surreal to have like Slash being like: “Dude, I heard your stuff, man! I don’t normally listen to like the heavy, heavy stuff, but, man, that’s good shit!”, and Duff, and Matt Sorum. And I knew Dave Kushner from when he was actually in Vanilla Ice. A lot of people don’t know that he played with Vanilla Ice, so. And I knew him from then, and he had told them all about when he had met me. He knows my friend Isaac, who is in Icepick with me, so it just turned into like this big fun cool thing. And we did it at the basement of the 9/30 club in DC, we shot it. And, you know, I had Slash’s poster on my wall, you know, in ‘87/’88. So I was like, this is pretty crazy! And then I got to interview Metallica. That was… You know, and James was: “Oh, I have Hatebreed in my Ipod!!” And I was like: “Wow, that’s insane!” So, and Kirk, too, like, Kirk is like one of the coolest dudes on the planet. I mean, they’re all great, they’re all great. So, it just, it did my heart good. I mean, you wanna talk about like a fulfilling experience: you know, to look up to somebody and to put them on such a pedestal and then have them be just as cool as you would have imagined, is really… I left like a couple of inches off the ground when I was walking out of there. And that’s what makes it so great, you know And to see the fan’s interaction, like, you know, with the way that they… you know, all their fans, it was cool. Like when I went outside the Velvet Revolver show and I was getting ready to leave, or whatever, there were fans all lined up with their Guns ‘n Roses shirts and everything. People like, you know, people that have watched Velvet Revolver were like: “Jamey, oh my God, what are you doing here`? Did you interview Slash? Did you meet Duff?” And I was like: “Yeah!” And they’re like: “How cool!” Like, so it was cool. It was like a fan moment. PLEASE COMMENT ON THE FOLLOWING QUOTE: “HATEBREED IS NOT A BAND – IT’S A MOVEMENT”! Well, you know, it’s just like, for a lot of people it’s more than music. It’s like therapy, when you go to a show and you pour your heart out on the stage, you’re screaming, you’re diving off the stage, you know, you’re in the pit, you’re part of the community. You know, like, you come to a show, and you meet people, like-minded people, or whatever. And I think, you know, just throughout the years, you know, people travel like from city to city following us. And people have our logo and our words tattooed on them, and it’s just become a little bit more than just entertainment. And I think, that’s why, you know, a movement is a cool thing to, you know, associate around us. Just because I feel like, you know, the hardcore movement in general, you know, we’ve been able to broaden our horizons beyond that, even though we’re still, you know, firmly planted in it. It’s, you know, we’re showing people that it’s more out there. And that’s, you know, basically what the movement is about: not accepting limitations, and people’s expectations, and people’s ceilings, you know. RECORDED JUNE 14TH, 2006 IN BIELEFELD

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